[erlang-questions] process manager, R16, and 64-bit Macs

Patrik Nyblom <>
Wed Dec 5 12:31:50 CET 2012


On 12/05/2012 11:31 AM, Ngoc Dao wrote:
> About the future, what do you think about giving up wxWidgets, and using Nodejs?
> There are many GUI libraries for Nodejs right now.
No such plans for the moment. Such a user contribution would be nice 
though... hint, hint...

/Patrik
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Patrik Nyblom <> wrote:
>> On 12/04/2012 11:28 PM, Simon St.Laurent wrote:
>>> The question about R16 features reminded me that one of the promises of
>>> R16 is the removal of Process Manager:
>>>
>>> "The Pman application has been superseded by the Observer application.
>>> Pman will be removed in R16." - http://www.erlang.org/doc/man/pman.html
>>>
>>> However, Observer does not run at all on 64-bit Macs, because of that
>>> platform's lack of support for wxWidgets.  (The other Erlang GUI apps I've
>>> tried do run, though the debugger is a bit crash-prone.)  R15B3 seems to
>>> report the same "wxWidgets not found, wx will NOT be usable" message.
>> We're working on using the wxWidgets 2.9 "beta-line" for macs, which would
>> fix the 64bit problem (it's cocoa-based). 2.8 is also almost impossible to
>> build on mountain lion, so we need to up wxWidgets version on mac anyway.
>> Unfortunately we have some rather unpleasant stability problems with 2.9 on
>> the mac, so we might need to reconsider...
>>>
>>> Is there any chance of Pman getting a delay until support is better?  Or
>>> is this just the cost of progress?
>> If we do not have a cross platform wx solution that works for R16, we will
>> definitely "think again"!
>>>
>>> (I'm writing Introducing Erlang for O'Reilly, and need to decide if I'm
>>> ripping out the process manager coverage and replacing it, and if I need to
>>> keep that coverage around online for customers who happen to use recent
>>> Macs.)
>> Might be a good idea to keep it online...
>>>
>>> If there's a better place to ask this, please let me know!
>>>
>> Nope, erlang-questions is the right place :)
>>> Thanks,
>> Cheers,
>> /Patrik, OTP
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