[erlang-questions] Process heap inspector

Kostis Sagonas <>
Mon Nov 28 14:55:57 CET 2011


On 11/28/2011 08:39 AM, Michal Ptaszek wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> This idea was born in my mind when debugging some complex, live system
> and trying to figure out where did all my memory go.
>
> So, when debugging live system/investigating suspicious memory consumption patterns
> or simply trying to understand better what's going on with our processes, it might be useful
> to take a peep at the data given process operates on.
>
> ...
>
> The implementation is rather simple: if the process we probe is not the caller one (we are not doing
> erlang:inspect_heap(self()), the data is copied from the callee heap to caller heap (to prevent from having
> cross-process references in variables), then we compute flat size of the each term we moved. Also, rootset
> is also included in the summary (i.e. process dict, seq tokens, etc.).
>
> Code is included in my inspect_heap OTP branch on:
>   github: https://github.com/paulgray/otp/tree/inspect_heap
>
> I am still a little bit hesitant about suspending process we probe: can anyone tell
> me if acquiring main process lock would be enough to keep its heap untouched during
> the call?
>
> Please, do point any bugs and tell me what do you think about the idea.

I can see that this may be handy to have at some situations, but 
provided I understand what is happening at the implementation level 
(disclaimer: I have not looked at the implementation), I think it's 
actually a pretty bad idea to include in a non debug-enabled runtime system.

The reason is that this breaks all assumptions/invariants of the runtime 
system in that Erlang processes are independent and can be scheduled to 
execute concurrently on an SMP without being preempted by anything other 
than exhausting their reduction step count or being stuck on some 
receive. With this "built-in feature" processes need to be able to stop 
at more or less any random point and stay suspended for an indefinite 
amount of time based on code that _another_ process is executing.

I am also concerned about how/whether sharing of subterms is preserved 
or not when doing the copying. (Based on the phrasing that "then we 
compute flat size of the each term we moved", I suspect the answer is 
no.)  Why is this useful?  You may end up with an arbitrarily bigger 
heap in the caller than the one that the callee currently has. Call me 
unimaginative but I do not really see why you would want that...

Kostis



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