[erlang-questions] Italian User Group

Francesco Cesarini (Erlang Solutions) <>
Wed Mar 17 21:19:54 CET 2010


Hi All,

interesting discussions on various user groups. Having started the one 
in Stockholm and London, and helped the Michals initiate the one in 
Krakow, the main focus of these user groups is to meet up and listen to 
talks, exchange experiences, war stories, network, do code dojos and 
meet new people. It is not about a language or a mailing list. More 
about a particular location. (Even if this location is secondary, as 
people from all over have registered on the London user group list). As 
far as I know, the most up to date list list of all Erlang user groups 
is on trapexit:

http://www.trapexit.org/ErlangUserGroups

This lists are used to announce meetups.

In some cases, mailing lists and discussions in local languages are a 
must. As Chandru states, not everyone speaks English, and those who do 
might not have the confidence of posting to such a heavily trafficated 
list... Great examples of large Erlang communities exist in China and 
Japan. They run their own conferences, workshops and blogs: 
http://ecug.org/ and http://erlang-china.org/ are an example. I am sure 
Kenji can share similar experiences and links on Japan. I have not 
looked for them, but am sure they are there. South Korea is another 
country with a large user base you rarely come across here in Europe but 
boy do they show up on the erlang.org google analytics page. If you take 
Joe's book, it has been translated to Chinese, Japanese and Korean. 
Simon and my Erlang Programming is being translated to Chinese (It is 
now out for review), Japanese and Russian (The latter two due out later 
this year). I hope both books will come out in many other languages. 
Also hoping that Manning is looking to translate Martin, Eric and 
Richard's excellent book, as local translations help the community and 
reduce the barrier to entry when teaching Erlang in universities.  There 
was a great talk at OSCON 2008 on starting a user group. The slides are 
here: http://www.slideshare.net/selenamarie/running-a-successful-user-group

As a result of this thread, we are hoping to arrange a one day event in 
Italy. Events in local languages (The Erlang Factory Lite we ran in 
Krakow was in Polish, except for Ulf's talk. He is practising for next 
year, but in the meantime preferred English).  Also, to provide some 
numbers... Last week, we had a London User Group meeting in conjunction 
with QCON. 50 people showed up. The Michals also kicked off the Wrocklaw 
User Group , where 60 people showed up! I think that there were about 20 
people in Paris this Monday.

The next Erl Lounge (aka Bay Area User Group Meeting) will be next week 
in conjunction with the Erlang Factory in the bay area. Expect 100+ 
people and free beer. Joanna will be sending an email out to this 
mailing list with the details, but it will be an excellent opportunity 
for everyone who could not take time off to come and mingle with the 
speakers and conference delegates.

So all in all, all noise is good noise, in whatever language and 
whatever location you are in.

Hope to see many of you in SF next week!

Francesco

> In the message <>
> dated Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:05:15PM +0300,
> Konstantin Sorokin <> writes:
>   
>> My point is that it is not necessary to speak fluent English to
>> communicate, right ? I've found from my experience that generally
>> people are very tolerant to the
>> grammar mistakes if they still can understand you. Erlang community is
>> too small to be stratified by native languages.
>>     
>
> I strongly and always suggest all talented Japanese-speaking programmers
> and users of Erlang in Japan to write their ideas in English, and some
> of them do.  They are brave people.  But that does not necessarily mean
> that they do not have any difficulty on speaking/listening to English.
>
> I think one of the main reason why Erlang has been getting popularity in
> Japan is that Programming Erlang by Joe Armstrong is very well
> translated into Japanese.  (And I hope Erlang Programming by Francesco
> Cesarini and Simon Thompson will be in a near future.)
>
> BTW I appreciate any regional/linguistical programming communities to
> emerge anyway.
>
> Kenji Rikitake
>
>
>
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