[erlang-questions] What is the status of ebdc?

Carl McDade <>
Wed May 20 20:50:58 CEST 2009


Yes, I see the movement towards these schema-less data sources and
while they are useful and needed in some situations they don't fit in
every situation.

I would have thought that given the rise in interest in Erlang in 2006
and MySQLs dominance on the web that there would be a mature and
robust solution three years later. I can understand Yariv's situation
in being only a single developer working. But Ericsson, Process One
and Erlang-consulting or any of the FOSS projects don't seem to have
any interest in using any RDBMS.  The lack of something like this is a
show stopper for many companies and developers.

I hope that enough interest is sparked in 2009 to turn this situation
around in a short time.

I am taking baby steps in learning this and part of the process is
being able to slowly build on what I already know.



On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Michael McDaniel <> wrote:
>
>  Erlang Web has preliminary couchdb support and Mnesia support.
>
>  See http://wiki.erlang-web.org/DBMS
>
> ~M
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 07:26:14PM +0200, Carl McDade wrote:
>> Yep, I figured that out from reading Yariv's earlier postings. The
>> thing is I am trying to use Erlang for the web and present tutorials
>> that do not require having to to cobble together stuff from 12
>> different sources. One source is ideal, three is the max. I think.
>>
>> I am some what surprised that neither Yaws or Erlang Web have database
>> layers given that they seem to be the most mature of all web oriented
>> projects. Without this, learning Erlang via web development is going
>> to be harder than I thought.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Dave Bryson <> wrote:
>> >> Carl,
>> >>
>> >> You don't have to use the entire Erlyweb framework if you want to use
>> >> another web framework. You can use Erlydb (the database layer) included with
>> >> Erlyweb stand alone.  Or as I've done in other work, you can use just the
>> >> mysql driver and erlsql.
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> On May 20, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Carl McDade wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes and no. I posted about EDBC specifically because I wanted to know
>> >>> if there is something coming into core Erlang. But I did ask about
>> >>> Erlyweb because it seems to be the only framework with a working
>> >>> database connection layer.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for that link. But what I a looking for is something that can
>> >>> be put in production and is supported. The trouble here is that
>> >>> nothing in the way of rdbms seems to get past the beta stage and very
>> >>> little has happen on this front since 2006.
>> >>>
>> >>> If Erlang is to gain any popularity with the general population then a
>> >>> native rdbms connection layer is needed. Not many are going to
>> >>> consider Erlang if they cannot use their choice of data source.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Carl McDade <> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes and no. I posted about EDBC specifically because I wanted to know
>> >>>> if there is something coming into core Erlang. But I did ask about
>> >>>> Erlyweb because it seems to be the only framework with a working
>> >>>> database connection layer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for that link. But what I a looking for is something that can
>> >>>> be put in production and is supported. The trouble here is that
>> >>>> nothing in the way of rdbms seems to get past the beta stage and very
>> >>>> little has happen on this front since 2006.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If Erlang is to gain any popularity with the general population then a
>> >>>> native rdbms connection layer is needed. Not many are going to
>> >>>> consider Erlang if they cannot use their choice of data source.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> /Carl
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Christian <> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Did I just respond to the wrong message?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://github.com/archaelus/edbi/tree/master is a more promising
>> >>>>> project.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 13:06, Carl McDade <> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Is the database connectivity project EBDC being activly developed? I
>> >>>>>> looked in the SVN at code.google.com and found only emptiness.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
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