[erlang-questions] Attracting Functional Programmers

Gordon Guthrie <>
Mon Oct 8 11:23:53 CEST 2007


Gary

> A nice solution would be to have a "pre-configured, templated image"
> of an Erlang environment and Erlang/OTP at Amazon Elastic Compute
> Cloud (Amazon EC2) http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=201590011

Dale and I are working on a single-click install Erlang developers
platform based on the Ubuntu liveCD that comes preloaded with development
tools...

This uses the Ubuntu Customization Kit to layer a small slice o'Erlang
over Dapper Drake.

There are a couple of problems with Erlang/Mnesia under the ECC - the most
noticable one is how you get your data backed off. We are also working on
an  Mnesia cluster management console that would allow you to set up 2 or
three ECC instances and distribute the data - and then do a table dump off
the Amazon storage cloud on a daily basis...

*Eventually* this stuff will be open sourced...

Gordon

>
> On 7 Oct 2007, at 17:37, Dale Harvey wrote:
>
>> In terms of attracting programmers, it seems like my main reason,
>> if noticing the traction that erlang has been gaining recently, to
>> not decided to give erlang a shot is the fact that I would have to
>> own my own server in order to develop anything public in it.
>>
>> Personally I have tested quite a few web based languages, all of
>> which were little experiments which I could 'deploy' on my shared
>> hosting. If it werent for other circumstances I almost certainly
>> wouldnt have tested erlang.
>
> I'm not sure I understand your point.
> Are you saying Erlang/OTP will become much more useful to people like
> you when it is made available as a "shrink wrapped" platform by
> hosting companies?
> If that's your point, I agree.
>
> AFAIK, the only company offering (or planing to offer) hosted Erlang
> was joyent, and Joyant were expensive compared to the majority of
> hosting companies.
> As a comparison, Railsplayground.com offers Ruby on Rails hosting
> starting at $5/month. You just upload your app., and go.
>
> The cheapest way for a company to offer Erlang hosting would be
> within virtual private servers (VPS), e.g. Linux Virtual Machines
> running Erlang Nodes. I've googled around and can't find anyone doing
> that. Of course, you could build the virtual private server yourself,
> but that seems like significant effort which a hosting company could
> just 'solve' for people.
> Is there a pre-built VPS image to take out all of the pain?
>
> A nice solution would be to have a "pre-configured, templated image"
> of an Erlang environment and Erlang/OTP at Amazon Elastic Compute
> Cloud (Amazon EC2) http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=201590011
> Amazon's computing cloud supports starting up and closing down upnew
> servers on-demand, you only pay for what you use. This would be very
> handy if your throughput requirements are very peaky.
>
> GB
>
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