[erlang-questions] benchmarks game harsh criticism

Robert Virding <>
Tue Dec 11 17:52:49 CET 2007


Who cab be bothered reading it now anyway? :-)

Robert

On 11/12/2007, Sean Hinde <> wrote:
>
> Please, please give it a rest. Enough. Stop. Cease. Desist.
>
> This is doing more to damage the reputation of the Erlang community
> than any benefit that might be gained from whatever it is you are
> writing about. Go away!
>
> Sean
>
> On 11 Dec 2007, at 16:21, Bengt Kleberg wrote:
>
> > greetings,
> >
> > it is good that you always think about the legalities involved in
> > email
> > discussions. not many people do. it would be better if you thought
> > about
> > how to communicate in email discussions, too.
> >
> > some things that helps communication: what is the goal you have in
> > mind
> > when you send an email? if the receiver knows where the discussion is
> > heading it will help. try to write clearly, not cleverly. if possible,
> > be nice. avoid rhetorical questions that are thinly veiled threats.
> > bullying people will make them shut up, but not change their mind.
> > give
> > a context to your questions. do not insinuate that your reader is an
> > idiot. that either adds to the confusion or creates bad will.
> > explain a
> > lot since mind reading never works.
> >
> > take your last email as an example. it probably says that you do not
> > like a personal attack, only not directly. but what is it that you do
> > not like? is it to be reminded of a mistake? or that your perfectly
> > legal and very well crafted writing is called brutal?  i do not know
> > and
> > if you want me to know, then communication could fix that.
> >
> > if you do not want me to know, then the simplest way is to avoid
> > writing
> > anything at all.
> >
> >
> > bengt
> >
> > Those were the days...
> >    EPO guidelines 1978: "If the contribution to the known art resides
> >    solely in a computer program then the subject matter is not
> >    patentable in whatever manner it may be presented in the claims."
> >
> >
> > On 12/07/07 19:08, Isaac Gouy wrote:
> >> Please consider whether making a personal attack is an appropriate
> >> use
> >> of this mailing list or of your employers email service.
> >>
> >> I provided a link to the benchmarks game public discussion forum -
> >> please understand that personal attacks will not be welcomed there.
> >>
> >> There's nothing more for me to say.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Bengt Kleberg <> wrote:
> >>
> >>> greetings,
> >>>
> >>> as for losing audience i hope that my suggestion at the start of
> >>> this
> >>>
> >>> discussion (''do not read this'') was followed by as many as
> >>> possible.
> >>> having experienced isaac some 2-3 years ago (that time was much
> >>> worse
> >>>
> >>> since i was unprepared) i expected something like this and thus
> >>> offered
> >>> the warning.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> taking this from the mail list is a good idea in theory.
> >>>
> >>> it was my first reaction when things turned ugly all those years
> >>> ago.
> >>>
> >>> unfortunately isaac took the private email i sent him, chopped it
> >>> into
> >>> little pieces, removing things like explanations, smilies, etc. he
> >>> then
> >>> posted these pieces as straw man arguments on the mail list. using
> >>> his
> >>> normal acerbic tone, he proceeded smashing them to dust.
> >>>
> >>> i sent another private email explaining that he had hurt me, asking
> >>> him
> >>> to stop doing such things, and giving me an apology. his (private)
> >>> answer was much more brutal than his mail list postings, the point
> >>> being
> >>> that his act was not illegal and he would never apologise. finally
> >>> he
> >>>
> >>> wrote that we should never send private email to each other again.
> >>>
> >>> so in practice i am not taking this off-line even though it would be
> >>> a
> >>> nice thing for this list.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bengt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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