Any pending improvements to async thread pool?
Raimo Niskanen
raimo.niskanen@REDACTED
Mon May 19 09:03:30 CEST 2003
Hi Scott,
the changes are still pending; they will not come in R9C. Maybe R10. The
simplest fairly backwards compatible change I can think of is to have
the threads pick jobs from the queues in a round-robin fashinon instead
of as today one thread always picks from the same queue. I also think
that it would be a farly simple change.
/ Raimo Niskanen, Erlang/OTP, Ericsson AB
Scott Lystig Fritchie wrote:
> Hi there. I've a question for the OTP team: are there any
> improvements to the async thread pool that might be appearing in a
> future Erlang release?
>
> Last night I was bitten by a "feature" that I've known about for ages
> but had forgotten about.(*) If I have a driver D that utilizes the
> async thread pool, and if that driver gives an async thread a task T
> that takes many seconds to finish, then it's quite possible to block
> task T' by another driver (also using the async thread pool) until
> task T has finished.
>
> As an example, say I've got a driver that executes the C library's
> sleep(200) call using an async thread.(**) Then, I try launching the
> debugger (or "pman" or "appmon" or whatever). The application won't
> run for 200 seconds...
>
> ... because the "efile_drv" driver is also using the async thread
> pool. The task of operating on one of the beam files is assigned by
> efile_drv to the same thread that's executing the sleep(200). The
> result is a lot of wasted time.
>
> The current scheme for mapping tasks to a particular thread is, IMHO,
> broken. A short-term solution is to manage my own async worker
> thread(s) rather than using the async thread pool already provided.
>
> However, given that "efile_drv" can end up blocking *itself* by trying
> to operate on slow media (CD-ROM, NFS, Flash-based storage, or even a
> really busy local on-disk file system(***)), I think it ought to be
> fixed. If there are other idle threads available, they should be
> usable.
>
> -Scott
>
> (*) I mentioned this in my Erlang Driver Toolkit paper: section 7.3,
> last paragraph.
>
> (**) That's the first driver using async threads I wrote. :-)
> However, any computation that takes a long time is sufficient.
>
> (***) Back when I was running USENET News servers, I had file systems
> so busy that a single open(), link, or unlink() system call sometimes
> took 3/4 of a second. Each. I don't recommend workloads that high.
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