Q regarding multicast and n-way connection in a cluster

Chandrashekhar Mullaparthi <>
Tue Feb 27 11:43:18 CET 2001


Right now I dont think Erlang has explicit support for receiving on a
multicast address. Sending to a multicast address is no problem though. But
you can use either ports or a linked in driver which implements that for
you. 

You can "configure" a node so that it doesn't automatically connect to all
nodes it sees. See the parameter dist_auto_connect in the kernel manual.

I could be wrong, but I think inter-node communications are multiplexed
through a single-socket-per-node pair. 

There is a heartbeat between connected erlang nodes. Check the net_ticktime
parameter in the kernel manual. When a process dies  - all processes linked
to it get the message {'EXIT', Pid, Reason} regardless of which nodes these
processes reside on. If this is because of a broken TCP connection - the
message will be {'EXIT', Pid, noconnection}. You can use node(Pid) to
determine from which node this message originated.

hth
Chandru

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Reto Kramer [mailto:]
> Sent:	26 February 2001 21:31
> To:	
> Subject:	Q regarding multicast and n-way connection in a cluster
> 
> I am relatively new to really getting into Erlang as opposed to just
> reading every available article about it ;-).
> 
> So far I used to be involved with building clustered (business) solutions
> that have employed a technique that seems not to be exactly in line with
> the Erlang way of architecting such systems.
> 
> I'd appreciate if someone could illustrate for me how an Erlang architect
> would build a "clustered stateful service".  Let's assume that  each
> client has a little bit of state (some kB) and that there could be many
> thousand concurrent clients hitting the cluster. Because of the large
> workload that the large number of clients generates, the cluster might
> have to get rather large (e.g. 10 to 50 machines). Also we do not want to
> pass the state back and forth between the client and the server but only
> pass a session identifier (e.g. as part of a http cookie).
> 
> For cluster membership I am used to use heartbeats over IP multicast,
> where each cluster member uses the same multicast address to publish the
> heartbeat information.  Heartbeats can carry all sorts of data (e.g. a
> servers current load, etc.). Also each server packs its "views" of who
> else is in the cluster into the heartbeat that is seen by everybody else.
> This avoids the need for a centralized "member registry".
> 
> Q1: how could I elegantly access the socket layer to send/listen on a
> multicast address?
> 
> It seemed to me that a cluster of n Erlang nodes will "implicitly" n-way
> interconnect if I have to use message sends from each server to each other
> server to maintain the cluster membership protocol. While this seems
> feasible for smaller clusters, I would get nervous about scalability if
> the cluster contains maybe 100s of machines (I would "waist" those socket
> resources for something that I could use 1 multicast socket for).
> 
> Q2: where can I find information as to how the various Erlang constructs
> (e.g. process links across nodes) translate to "OS resource usage".  I am
> specifically interested in whether inter node communication is multiplexed
> through a single socket per node-pair (or is there a socket per process or
> even per send)?
> 
> Q3: are "process links across nodes" implemented by detecting the breaking
> of a TCP connection or is there a heartbeat/timeout involved for the
> point2point connection as well?
> 
> Thanks for you help and pointer to "implementation level documentation"!
> 
> cheers,
> - Reto
> 
> 
> 
> 
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