[erlang-bugs] Segfault in erl_interface attempting to decode certain large binaries
Thu Jul 24 03:19:33 CEST 2008
Yeah I saw that tutorial. Unfortunately it's based around a fixed format of
terms, thus doesn't make use of ei_get_type(), which is central to any kind
of generic decoder.
Regardless I did more extensive testing and it looks like I will be
implementing my own generic Erlang term decoder using ei. Will post results
when I'm done.
On Behalf Of Serge Aleynikov
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:51 PM
To: Jonathan Gray
Subject: Re: [erlang-bugs] Segfault in erl_interface attempting to decode
certain large binaries
You can use the following tutorial to help you started with ei:
I haven't seen any newer erl_encode/erl_decode implementations. Frankly
I've started doing that myself in C++ and got the recursive encoding
part, but haven't done the decoder and had to put this project on hold
due to other priorities.
Jonathan Gray wrote:
> Sorry I was not more clear. This is a port program with two remote
> communicating via simple TCP packets (size header, buffer).
> Thanks for the advice. The documentation suggests that erl_interface is
> actually making use of the ei code. I'm not sure if that's correct
> I see other resources on the web that say they are different (ei is new,
> erl_interface is old). However the error does exist in a malloc() call so
> perhaps that can be avoided doing the term decodes myself?
> Unfortunately what I need (already have working but segfaulting on a large
> decode) is a generic parser that converts ErlBinary into a number of
> different formats (JSON, Python, C struct tree) and vice versa. The ETERM
> representation gave me an easy way to make recursive converters.
> this generic behavior using ei seems like I'll be recreating functions of
> erl_interface and losing the ETERM representation so I'll need to rewrite
> converters in a completely different way.
> Rewriting it to go directly from binary would be a good thing in the long
> run, just not something I was planning on doing at this stage. Has anyone
> ever written a newer generic erl_encode/erl_decode using the latest ei?
> I will take a closer look at ei and report back.
> Thanks for your help.
> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Serge Aleynikov
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [erlang-bugs] Segfault in erl_interface attempting to decode
> certain large binaries
> It's not clear from your description if you're using erl_interface to
> build a driver or a port program. While I don't have an answer to your
> direct question, perhaps if you are writing a C port program you can use
> ei instead of erl_interface, and if you are writing a driver, you can
> use driver_output_term() / driver_send_term() and corresponding
> ErlDrvTermData* structures to pass data to/from the emulator (*). This
> is the fastest way to communicate with the emulator's port owner process.
> (*) See: http://www.erlang.org/doc/man/erl_driver.html
> and also the source code of inet_drv.c in the distribution for various
> LOAD_*() macros that simplify working with ErlDrvTermData structures.
>> I have a TCP interface between an Erlang system and a C system. Both
>> send/receive marshaled binary Erlang terms and I have not had any
>> to date.
>> Today I began doing some more serious testing with larger chunks of
>> to be decoded in C.
>> We ran into a bug (it seems) with erl_interface 184.108.40.206 that is causing
>> to segfault during decoding. The backtrace looks like this:
>> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>> [Switching to Thread 46912496233216 (LWP 4091)]
>> 0x00000000004032c4 in _erl_free_term ()
>> (gdb) bt
>> #0 0x00000000004032c4 in _erl_free_term ()
>> #1 0x000000000040496b in erl_decode_it ()
>> #2 0x0000000000404937 in erl_decode_it ()
>> #3 0x0000000000404c93 in erl_decode_it ()
>> #4 0x0000000000404c93 in erl_decode_it ()
>> #5 0x0000000000405311 in erl_decode ()
>> #6 0x0000000000401b38 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fff51ec7938) at
>> The unfortunate part is that the way this large binary term is generated
>> cannot be done in any kind of sample code (it's being pulled off an
>> Testing code: http://jgray.la/erlang/erl_decode_segfault_test.tar.gz
>> However, I have created a set of test files in C which recreate the
>> segfault. I stored the binary in a flat file (as 'badbinary') and have a
>> testing program which reads it off disk and attempts to decode it. To
>> the approach is sane (and that this segfault is related to something
>> about the decoding of this particular binary, not the size or general
>> of the binary) there is a 'goodbinary' file and testing program for that.
>> To use the test code:
>> Untar/Ungzip the file. You may need to edit the Makefile to fix the
>> to your erl_interface library.
>> 'make' and then you can:
>> ./badtest (this reads 'badbinary' and attempts to decode, causes
>> ./goodtest (this reads 'goodbinary' and successfully decodes it) [nearly
>> identical code to badtest.c but reads different file w/ different size]
>> Also included is
>> ./makegoodbin (a simple program that generates a large ETERM in an
>> format to the badbinary but contains duplicated binary data everywhere)
>> * The marshaled binary erlang term being sent to C can be successfully
>> decoded/unmarshaled from within Erlang without a problem
>> * This is reproducible with many different large erlang terms generated
>> our database queries. 'makegoodbin.c' creates a term identical in format
>> those causing problems, however it does not have the random distribution
>> binary sizes and content, and so I'm not able to reproduce the problem in
>> this way.
>> * The entire system, end-to-end including this decoding step, works
>> perfectly in most cases. However when the data goes into the 100k+
>> the segfaults start to happen. That's why I created the 'makegoodbin'
>> follows the same format. Unfortunately that works even at sizes of >1MB
>> adding to the confusion of the problem.
>> Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
>> I apologize if this is a repost. I never saw my original post hit the
>> and did not receive any responses.
>> Jonathan Gray
>> Streamy Inc.
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